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Post by Commish on Dec 20, 2018 9:20:04 GMT -5
These players are all automatically offered arbitration and their previous teams will receive compensation if the arby requirements are met. If a team does not want to offer arbitration, post here. Attachments:
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Post by CardinalsGM on Dec 20, 2018 10:05:26 GMT -5
Can you post a thread with the arby formula somewhere?
Also, has there been any thought of adding some to make up for the missed season since we are still only at two?
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Post by Commish on Dec 20, 2018 10:09:51 GMT -5
Point System for Free Agent Compensation
Batters Last outgoing season (Minimum 200 AB’s): .900+ OPS (5 points) .850 OPS (4 points) .800 OPS (3 points) .750 OPS (2 points) .700 OPS (1 point) Previous season (Minimum 200 AB’s): .900+ OPS (4 points) .850 OPS (3 points) .800 OPS (2 points) .750 OPS (1 point) .700 OPS (.5 points) 3rd season (Minimum 200 AB’s): .900+ OPS (3 points) .850 OPS (2 points) .800 OPS (1 point) .750 OPS (.5 points) All-Star Berth: 1 point per (over the 3 years) Gold Glove: 1 point per (over 3 years) Stolen Bases: .5 point for each season with 40+ SB (over 3 years) Runs scored (per individual season): (over last 3 years) 50 Runs (.5 point) 100 Runs (1 point) 150 Runs (2 points) RBI (per individual season): (over last 3 years) 50 RBI (.5 point) 100 RBI (1 point) 150 RBI (2 points) HR (per individual season): (over last 3 years) 10 HR (.5 point) 20 HR (1 point) 30+ HR (1.5 points) Career .300 BA (over 2500 AB's): 3 points
Starters (1/2 of appearances as SP) Last outgoing season (Minimum 100 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(5 points) 3.50 ERA or below(4 points) 4.00 ERA or below (3 points) 4.50 ERA or below (2 points) Previous season (Minimum 100 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(4 points) 3.50 ERA or below (3 points) 4.00 ERA or below (2 points) 4.50 ERA or below (1 point) 3rd season (Minimum 100 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(3 points) 3.50 ERA or below (2 point) 4.00 ERA or below (1 point) 4.50 ERA or below (.5 point) All-Star Berth: 1 point per (over 3 years) Wins per Season: (over last 3 years) 10 Wins (1 point) 15 Wins (2 points) 20 Wins (3 points) 25+ Wins (4 points) WHIP per season: (must meet IP requirement) (over last 3 years) WHIP of 1.00 or less = 3 points WHIP of 1.15 or less = 2 points WHIP of 1.30 or less = 1 point IP: - 1 point for any season of over 200 IP w/4.50 ERA or below (over last 3 years) CAREER ERA 3.50 or below(over 700IP): 1 point CAREER ERA 3.00 or below(over 700IP): 3 points
Relievers Last outgoing season (Minimum 35 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(5 points) 3.50 ERA or below(4 points) 4.00 ERA or below (3 points) 4.50 ERA or below (2 points) Previous season (Minimum 35 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(4 points) 3.50 ERA or below (3 points) 4.00 ERA or below (2 points) 4.50 ERA or below (1 point) 3rd season (Minimum 35 IP): 3.00 ERA or below(3 points) 3.50 ERA or below (2 point) 4.00 ERA or below (1 point) 4.50 ERA or below (.5 point) All-Star Berth: 1 point per (over the 3 years) SAVES (per individual season): (over last 3 years) 5 saves (.5 point) 15 saves (1 point) 30 saves (2 points) 40 saves (3 points) WINS (per individual season): (over last 3 years) 5 wins (.5 point) 10+ wins (1 points) WHIP per season: (must meet IP requirement) (over last 3 years) WHIP of 1.00 or less = 3 points WHIP of 1.15 or less = 2 points WHIP of 1.30 or less = 1 point IP - 1 point for any season with 60 IP w/a 4.00 ERA or below (over last 3 years) CAREER ERA 3.50 or below(over 300 IP): 1 point CAREER ERA 3.00 or below(over 300 IP): 3 points
TYPE C FA's - Must have 5 points TYPE B FA’s – Must have 10 points TYPE A FA’s – Must have 20 points
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Post by OldPiratesGM on Dec 20, 2018 20:36:28 GMT -5
Can you post a thread with the arby formula somewhere? Also, has there been any thought of adding some to make up for the missed season since we are still only at two? I second this, Murray is clearly a Type A if he had a 3rd season he easily would have qualified as an A.
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Post by Commish on Dec 20, 2018 22:35:05 GMT -5
Murray can get the bonus 3 points for having a career average over .300, which would put him up to 21 and a Type A
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Post by AngelsGM on Dec 20, 2018 23:12:36 GMT -5
I don't like adding a rule on the fly since I was screwed out of better comp on Guerrero last season in that case.
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Post by MarinersGM on Dec 21, 2018 0:16:13 GMT -5
I don't like adding a rule on the fly since I was screwed out of better comp on Guerrero last season in that case. I don’t think it’s really adding a rule. I think it’s just exempting Murray from the minimum 2500ab filter, which makes sense since he had well over that many at this point in his career.
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Post by Commish on Dec 21, 2018 7:53:14 GMT -5
I get Cory's beef.. but I'm just making this one time adjustment because the min. AB like Seattle said. After this season, it should all be moot as we'll have the three seasons and there will be more arby guys.
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Post by CardinalsGM on Dec 21, 2018 11:21:49 GMT -5
Really, what we should have done was not erase their previous stats from the 1983 and 1984 seasons before we started.
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Post by bcurrier on Dec 21, 2018 14:06:45 GMT -5
no arby for mullinicks or marshall
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Post by AngelsGM on Dec 21, 2018 15:35:06 GMT -5
I don't like adding a rule on the fly since I was screwed out of better comp on Guerrero last season in that case. I don’t think it’s really adding a rule. I think it’s just exempting Murray from the minimum 2500ab filter, which makes sense since he had well over that many at this point in his career. And this would have and should have also applied to Guerrero as well. I think it's BS if we are going to ignore one player for another that totally meets the requirements. Guerrero was a two time allstar, top 5 MVP vote getter prior to actually winning the MVP vote in this league. I'm not discounting Murray at all, he should be a comp A guy, but it's bogus that now we are going to change a few things just for one player. I was dicked around by him in contract negotations just as much as the Pirates were by Murray.
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Post by MarinersGM on Dec 21, 2018 20:53:37 GMT -5
I definitely hear where you're coming from and trying to keep things fair, but as commish pointed out, this really won't be an issue after this year. Guerrero likely wasn't 3 points away from Type A (due to it being the first year of the league), so it's not exactly the same. But I also don't care what we decide one way or another, I was just clarifying that this isn't technically a rule change.
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Post by AngelsGM on Dec 22, 2018 0:26:39 GMT -5
I'm not in favor of it. If Guerrero was not getting any bumps due to the lack of seasons then Murray should not either.
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Post by BlueJaysGM on Dec 22, 2018 10:29:15 GMT -5
agree with dodgers. there shouldn't be 1-time adjustment or exemption to help a GM after the fact when we knew the rule. moving forward if you want to adjust a rule, there should be a discussion and a vote.
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Post by Commish on Dec 22, 2018 12:36:27 GMT -5
I think in the end the Padres and Dodgers are right. Murray stays a Type B.
Like I said before, this will all be moot next season when we'll have 3 full seasons.
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