CubsGM: CardinalsGM: I disagree with your opinion and can't imagine a straight 5s batter or pitcher being an average MLB producer. This doesn't make sense the way the OOTP 6.5 Stat Engine is set up.
Apr 2, 2020 15:02:58 GMT -5
CubsGM: If a player has 8 contact or seven contact with 9-10 power, you have a starting MLB player. If the average were 5s, then a 10 would completely dominate to such a point that he would be hitting .400 plus and/o 80+ HRs.
Apr 2, 2020 15:04:30 GMT -5
PadresGM: like i said before...these players aren't being created this way, but rather the game itself is boosting them through player development changes
Apr 3, 2020 12:40:13 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: The game engine determines overall stats based on a league total... and distributes stats throughout the players by a combination of past stats and ratings.
Apr 4, 2020 11:27:30 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: It doesn't just say -- eh, this guy is a 5 so he sucks. If the average of the league were 5's, then those players would be roughly producing a league average stat.
Apr 4, 2020 11:29:14 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: And the 10's would be people far more likely to produce at a larger deviation from the average.
Apr 4, 2020 11:29:42 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: I just agreed with commish that the issue is likely more a product of having fewer teams than anything. More teams=a more widely distributed talent level and 50 more players in the MLB level.
Apr 4, 2020 11:32:56 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: You shouldn't have to have a 7 contact mixed with 10 power to be MLB. 5 and 7 should get you there, just fine, especially when our A-level and late draft picks are 2-3's. 10's should be exceedingly rare, and YES, they would be more likely to dominate.
Apr 4, 2020 11:38:42 GMT -5
MarinersGM: In your proposed mechanic, and to Cubs point, the 10s that the game engine would produce would result in absurd outcomes like 80+ homer seasons, over .400 averages, etc. I’ve been in leagues like that and it’s no fun because it’s not realistic.
Apr 4, 2020 11:57:04 GMT -5
MarinersGM: one player can make far too much of a difference and upset the balance of the league. I think the settings in this league are much better than your proposal and leave just a few outliers like Bonds and Sheffield but their numbers still aren’t unrealistic
Apr 4, 2020 11:58:00 GMT -5
MarinersGM: and also we all agree that a few more teams would spread the talent out a bit and should fix part of your concern.
Apr 4, 2020 11:58:50 GMT -5
CubsGM: There are settings. I don't know what they are for this league. I think this league is very close to perfect as it is right now.
Apr 4, 2020 12:02:07 GMT -5
CubsGM: I am not a fan of expansion drafts, nor of expanding without stronger activity with current GMs.
Apr 4, 2020 12:02:46 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: You know what else is unrealistic? When teams trade 25 players for one, because everybody agrees that anything beyond the 2nd round draft pick is nearly worthless. That's directly a result of MLB ratings being out of reach for most players drafted.
Apr 5, 2020 11:51:58 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: The only way of dealing with that is making sure we don't have the "average" MLB player's ratings be too high relative to later draft picks.
Apr 5, 2020 11:53:35 GMT -5
CardinalsGM: Again, I'm in agreement with the commish that most of this is due to a condensed talent pool into only 18 teams.
Apr 5, 2020 11:54:25 GMT -5
CubsGM: I disagree. Trades should be regulated by the Commish/league rules. Keeping the talent so low that MLB players are average 5s is not going to affect the individual creativity of two GMs who are finding a way to trade. Most of the leagues I’ve been in
Apr 5, 2020 13:07:30 GMT -5
CubsGM: have had trade councils.
Apr 5, 2020 13:07:37 GMT -5
CubsGM: Our first issue is a lack of consistent activity by our GMs.
Apr 5, 2020 13:08:35 GMT -5